Musing on orthodoxy

A long time ago in another universe (actually Dec 2006), I blogged about a letter signed by some church leaders of an evangelical persuasion relating to homosexuality and the standpoint Christians should adopt. I'd rephrase it now, but it made the point.

If you didn't click the link, I questioned the use of the term "orthodox" to describe a conservative ethical standpoint with regard to homosexual relationships. My point was that orthodoxy has historically been used to describe agreement with the historic Christian creeds - especially their definition of the Trinity and of how Jesus was human and divine - the Incarnation. In contrast, ethical issues have been matters of debate throughout the history of the church, and a key current debate centres around how we should understand same-sex relationships. Ironically, at the New Wine conference in the summer of 2006, I had noted that the speaker had talked about Jesus in terms that (at best) were perilously close to adoptionism without any comparable furore about a lack of orthodoxy.

Now there's an important note to make here. Ethics is related to theology, and theology has ethical consequences. The distinction is not as sharp as my opening gambit might suggest. However, it is indisputable that Christians have differed on a variety of pretty important ethical issues without necessarily resorting to labelling each other heretics / unorthodox.

Take, for example, the question of the use of force. Pacifists would argue from Biblical texts such as the prohibitions to kill in the ten commandments (Ex 20:13, Deut 5:17) and Jesus' injunctions to turn the other cheek and love our enemies (Matthew 5:39,44). Others would draw on other texts to assert that military service is accepted (e.g. no criticism is offered in Mt 8:9, and soldier is used as an image in 2 Tim 2:3-4) It is deduced from other principles that defending the innocent and order of the state is a common good. There is a long track record of Christians concluding that where necessary, the use of force and taking of life can be justified. This was developed into what is often called just war theory. 

My question is this: would we refer to someone on one side of the argument or the other as a heretic? Each is considering Scripture very carefully and thoughtfully, but they have drawn different conclusions.

Some would say to me that this issue is different from questions of sexuality. They would assert that the clear view of Scripture is that same-sex relationships are a no-go area, and those who say they could be are just swayed by the times. It's worth noting that early Christians were essentially pacifists until Constantine took power, but as emperors, kings (and later presidents!) claimed Christian faith, the use of force became not only accepted, but even actively encouraged. There is a case for saying that politics and power had a role in changing that ethical standpoint too.

Whether you're a pacifist or not, or whether you are socially conservative or liberal, I have a simple plea. There are people on both sides of these debates who are sincere, thoughtful, conscientious people trying to discern the will of God. All kinds of factors bear down on all of us to read our Bibles with some degree of selectivity. We set aside some texts, because we see principles from other texts as overriding them. Why else do some Christians allow divorcees to remarry, why don't we sell all our possessions, and why do we allow women to lead - let alone preach in church? The answer is that we bring other factors to bear to set those commands and prohibitions aside - the context of the passage in the wider text, the people it was written for, the issue it was addressing and so on. It's all about the delicate and complex art of interpretation or hermeneutics.

So by all means disagree over same-sex relationships, just as Christians have disagreed over other matters - including life and death for centuries. My plea is simply that we should avoid describing those with whom we disagree as unorthodox or heretical. To do so is to make a claim of authority that I, for one, am not prepared to own.

Antidisestablishmentarianism

I always wanted to find a good reason to use that word, and this morning's headlines produced the goods. Antidisestablishmentarianism, that remarkably long word was originally used to describe the movement opposed to the disestablishment of the Anglican Church in England, Wales and Ireland. That is the removal of the links between state and church. Currently, only the Church of England remains established within the UK; the Anglican Churches in the rest of Britain (and Ireland) are not. As such, the rest of this post addresses an English problem, although there will be related issues elsewhere.

Today gave an excuse to use the word, due to the Church of England's response to the Government consultation on same-sex couple marriage being the lead story It raised the question of the role of the Church of England in marriage. The fear is that there could be legal action which could force the CofE to marry same-sex couples. Currently the CofE registers marriages, and can call banns for couples, saving them the need to apply for a licence to marry. As such I am a registrar for couples eligible to get married in my Church. Not everyone has a legal right to get married in my church - they must satisfy requirements relating to where they live, their connection with my parish or their membership of my church through the Church Electoral Roll. In a limited number of cases, special licences can also be used. It is feared in today's response, that there is a real chance that a human rights ruling could insist that if you do weddings at all, you must do them for all. Not being a lawyer, I can only observe that we currently have a discretionary mechanism for considering marriage after divorce where the former partner is still living, so a similar set-up for same-sex partnerships might be a viable, legal way forward.

More concerning is the way the whole issue is unfolding in the media. The overwhelming message from the CofE, officially, seems to be one based on fear. The first is a fear that marriage will be undermined, with arguments that procreation and consummation are central. Given we marry people beyond child-bearing age, or with fertility problems, and due to illness or disability sexual relations can be impaired or impossible, do we say they are somehow second-class marriages? We have to be very careful about the logic employed. Surely the most important and lasting factor in the kind of marriage the church wants to hold as ideal is the quality of the relationship of the partners. It seems to me that one could put a very strong case that such quality of relationship is not confined to heterosexual couples. The official position of the CofE is some way from accepting that.

The second fear is loss of establishment (at least in the area of marriage). I blogged a few weeks ago in a post that one way forward might be for the CofE to opt out of the legal marriage stuff altogether. Then everyone gets married in a Registry Office and religious ceremonies are out of the legal sphere.

What's been interesting is the level of fear expressed in official reactions that this might actually be imposed on us, given the position of the church on gay marriage. I have never been a great fan of establishment. The Church's confidence and security in its mission and identity has to be that Jesus Christ is its foundation, not a set of legal links to the state. Establishment is an accident of history that gives the CofE a unique set of opportunities, which if removed do nothing to diminish its identity as part of God's church. Obviously it would have consequences - contact with couples and their friends and families and, of course, some financial ones too. However, I can't help thinking that if churches all around the world somehow manage, then it doesn't need a lot of faith to believe that the good old CofE could continue to proclaim the gospel, whatever the state decides about marriage.

The greater threat to our ongoing life and growth might be that we are perceived to be living in fear, rather than seeking ways to bring positive and challenging good news to our society.

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A little bit of dissent

The Archbishop of York, John Sentamu, has been making headlines over the issue of gay marriage. In opposition to proposals supported by David Cameron, he opposes the possibility of gay marriage, stating that marriage is a bedrock of society and that it would be wrong for the definition to be changed to include same-sex couples.

I've been thinking about this issue for some time - I blogged about it back in 2009, when I suggested that the 'undermine marriage' argument against civil partnerships was unsustainable. Indeed, I suggested that having a means to register legally long-term faithful same-sex relationships should have an ordering and stabilising effect on society, rather than the opposite.

But what of the symbolism of the terminology involved? The legal status and consequences might be the same, but civil partnership doesn't sound the same as marriage. For some gay people, this is seen as a positive. I once heard a lesbian student explain why she would not want a marriage, even if it became legally available, as the term 'marriage' was tainted by patriarchal oppression of women. Likewise, there was an attempt by a heterosexual couple to change the law to allow a civil partnership. However, for others the inability to call their commitment 'marriage' is a shortcoming.

And on top of all of this, the Church of England still has a prominent role in registering marriages, but a very hot and ongoing internal debate on the issue of homosexual relationships. Churches and other religious groups are also concerned that they could be legally forced to celebrate same-sex unions.

Here's a suggestion: why don't we take all the legal stuff out of the hands of churches? What if everyone had to register their relationship in a civil ceremony first, in order to satisfy all the legal issues. Then religious communities could be free to celebrate (or not) the relationships their beliefs could accommodate with complete freedom. For the C of E, that could have some interesting consequences - a step towards disestablishment some might say, not to mention the fear of losing fee income. But maybe that would be a new challenge - what do we want to celebrate with members of our community and why? And where would we draw the line, and who would we leave out?

On this occasion, I don't think the Archbishop has been very wise (if he has been correctly reported). It's perfectly possible to have a dispassionate debate about the definition of the word marriage, and whether it can be applied to anything other than a heterosexual union. Linguistically and culturally one could argue that case, even if you have no objection to same-sex relationships. But that's not what people will hear from the Archbishop, and it appears he was saying more than that. I fear it will only lead to the church as a whole being portrayed (again) as bigoted and prejudiced.

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Is theism getting a bad press?

I'm not very sure how to phrase this post correctly. I have been musing for a while about a change I've observed over the time I have been ordained. It seems that there are now significantly more atheist voices who are more vocal and critical of belief in God, especially in the media and in public life. The question is: why?

Looking at the kinds of digs atheists make online, they're not always very sophisticated or original. Some atheists even seem to mirror religious fundamentalists in their absolutism. Even when the critique is more considered, it's usually the case that Christians have been struggling with the same issues for centuries. Suffering, theodicy, Old Testament wrath vs New testament compassion, etc are all there in theology textbooks (but not any neat answers). Maybe that's the problem: people who want neat answers find a messy God difficult.

If there is a trend, my first hunch is that the percentage of people who don't believe in God may not have changed as much as we think; it's just that their presence is felt more now. It's not as if atheism was invented when Richard Dawkins started selling books about it - people who didn't believe have been around for a long time.

I also suspect that quite a lot of the British never really believed in God in any very specific way, if at all. However, at most they described themselves as agnostic. Not a few of them probably went along to church, because it was a 'good thing' and saw it as supporting community and family. The 'supernatural' bit passed them by, and there are still churchgoers for whom that is true. The stronger  tag  of atheist probably seemed a bit definite for those 20th century sensibilities.

What's become clear in recent years is that attitudes to organised faith/religion have changed. The Church of England was once seen as basically benign, if rather odd, eccentric, ineffectual and from a different era. Church of England schools and colleges would be seen as 'nice' places to study, even by those who didn't practise the faith in any committed way. There is now a debate as to whether these institutions should receive any public support at all, or even whether churches and faith groups qualify as charities.

So why isn't theism seen as benign for wider society any more? Religious conflicts must be part of the picture. These aren't new, either, and nor is sectarian terrorism. There was plenty of that during the 'troubles' in Northern Ireland. However, more recent developments such as suicide bombing and the description of such as martyrdoms has pointed to a difficult question. If it is believed that human existence doesn't depend on this material world, but upon a relationship with the divine, then someone can acquire an attitude that says this life doesn't really matter. And in case Christians start getting superior at this point, that tradition is there in our faith too. It hasn't worked itself out in suicide bombing, but in medieval times, being killed on the Crusades was regarded as tantamount to martyrdom. How do we hold that 'this isn't everything', yet still value the material world as real and precious?

Ethics and values have changed the goalposts too. Churches are often seen as maintaining sexist and homophobic values in an era when society's norms and the laws of the land have moved on from traditional standpoints. If the perception out there is growing that theism = prejudice and discrimination, then it's hardly surprising to hear a more vocal critique from theosceptics. (Have I just invented that word? Must look it up later)

If my hunches bear any relation to reality, I'm not particularly worried about these shifts in attitude. One the one hand, Christians should expect opposition if they are being true to the teaching of Jesus - it certainly came his way. I sometimes wonder if we shouldn't be a lot more unpopular about poverty, economic exploitation and injustice.

On the other hand, we also need to listen. The Bible and the Christian tradition are complex, and it's easy to confirm our own pet prejudices with careful selection of our sources. Sometimes a radical challenge from outside our comfortable circle of like-minded can jolt us into re-examining what we think and why we think it.

Perhaps most of all we need to be more willing to live more radical lives. Maybe the reason more people openly say they don't believe any more is that they can see precious little reason for belief in the lives of those who say they do.

Do things come in threes?

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Don't subscribe to it myself - I think people retrospectively group events together. However, there has been a triplet of headaches for the good old C of E over the last few weeks.

First of all we had a problem with hats. The old tradition was that women wore hats in church and men didn't. However once you're a Bishop the reverse appears to apply. Katharine Jefferts Schori, presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church in the USA wasn't allowed to wear a mitre at Southwark Cathedral.

No doubt this was an attempt to placate conservative opponents of women becoming bishops, but it ended up looking hugely discourteous and failed to placate anybody. Just her being there at all was probably more than the most vocal opponents could stomach. Meanwhile, others saw it as an insult and a failure of hospitality to a senior member of the clergy. The irony is that mitres are entirely optional in the Church of England - they're not required by church rules and only became commonplace in the 19th century. Perhaps the more courteous thing would have been for everyone not to wear one!

The second problem (sorry I forgot; challenges) is the legislation currently being processed in response to the General Synod's vote to go forward with ordaining women bishops in the Church of England. It would be too long and dull to say why this takes so long, but the whole process was thrown by a new amendment being proposed by the Archbishops of Canterbury and York for the latest meeting of Synod. Called "co-ordinate jurisdiction" essentially this is a further concession to conservative concerns and is seen as giving a greater voice for traditionalists who find themselves in Dioceses with a female Diocesan Bishop. A full analysis of all the amendments is here, which ably demonstrates why I couldn't face standing for General Synod at the next election. I still maintain that the simpler the better is the best way forward - anything else is papering over some very big cracks.

Just when you thought it was safe, the news came through that the favoured candidate for Bishop of Southwark was Dr Jeffrey John. Dr John was, of course, the candidate for Bishop of Reading [suffragan to Bp of Oxford] in 2003. He was forced to withdraw from consideration after protests about his sexual orientation. Although he has declared his current circumstances to be in line with the Church of England's teaching, he hasn't repented of his previous relationship to the satisfaction of his critics. [Other Bishops don't seem to be subject to the same scrutiny as to whether their repentance matches their sins, but this is sex we're talking about...] Given Dr John entered a civil partnership in 2006, I suspect nothing would quell the more vocal critics. You can hear a Today programme debate here between Giles Fraser and Chris Sugden.

What intrigues me about is why Dr John's current appointment as Dean of St Alban's doesn't generate such a reaction. If the concern regarding him becoming a Bishop is about a gay man in leadership, or in a teaching role where he might 'mislead' people, or in senior office where the Church of England is publicly affirming a person who some find unacceptable, why isn't being a Cathedral Dean out of the question? The evangelical end of the C of E has often had a semi-detached relationship with its Bishops, so it's remarkable that episcopacy is suddenly so important to them. I can see that traditionalist Anglo-Catholics might have a particular problem with gay bishops, but on the whole they tend to make less noise about it.

The evidence suggests that Dr John has nurtured his Cathedral well, with a growing congregation that even pays its way and doesn't need to charge admission to visitors. Given he has been such a good steward of the responsibilities given him so far by the Church, I think it would be our loss if he weren't also given the opportunity to lead a Diocese.

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Lent blog 11: Making Peace about Sexual ethics?

I was never going to manage 40 posts for 40 days, but at least I've made double figures!

I was interested to see that James Jones, the Bishop of Liverpool, used his presidential address to his Diocesan Synod to attempt to set a new tone in the debate over homosexuality within the Church of England. It continues to be an issue which emerges in debates regularly, and is increasingly defining a number of boundaries. The obvious one is 'liberal' and 'conservative' within the church, although those labels become very difficult to define and very unhelpful to use. It's also becoming a main reason for secularism to see the Church as bigoted and prejudiced and therefore should be viewed with suspicion when active in public life, such as education.

Quite a few years ago in a sermon in Coventry, I used an analogy with the debate about Just War/pacifism to illustrate the deep divides within Christianity over ethics which have not tended to tip over into defining 'orthodoxy'. Since being online, I also blogged about orthodoxy and the sexuality debate here, and in a later post noted that you can have anything from a Catholic to a Calvinist theology of holy communion and stay within the Church of England without the same fuss being made.

Bishop James gives a more thorough and articulate exploration of this (and I'm sure he hasn't read this blog!) but it's good to see someone suggesting that we could be a single united church with a diversity of views on this issue. We've done it before' why can't we do it on this?

Perhaps an answer to that is that sexuality issues are just a bit too personal for such a peace to exist. It would certainly indicate a move towards maturity and self-confidence if we could at least move away from some of the hysteria that has surrounded this debate so far.

Greenbelt 2009

For about 30 years, my friends have been going to Greenbelt and telling me all about it. Tales of U2 in 1981 (?) and lots of other great acts and names have littered the conversations. Somehow I never got round to going. This year, as I was between jobs, and we hadn't had a summer holiday as we were moving house, we decided to go.

Camping is never my favourite activity, and it is a little more challenging at Greenbelt than at other festivals I have attended. The facilities near the tents are more basic, the toilets less plentiful and everything is a very long walk from the action. We abandoned hope of cleanliness or food preparation and just smelled and ate from vans. Actually the vans were the best I have ever come across at an event - lots of variety, lots of Fairtrade and lots of organic. Slightly pricey but very tasty. After the coldest night in August as our first, things gradually got better.

The thing I like about Greenbelt is that there is some elbow room to think, be challenged, and if you disagree it's Ok. Loads of stuff about peace, justice, environment as well as faith, belief and ethics. GB has also often welcomed contributions that the mainstream might be rather uncomfortable with. Sometimes these come from outside the Christian community; this year it came from within in the person of Bishop Gene Robinson, the Bishop of New Hampshire. If you've been on another planet for the last few years, you may not be aware that he is the first openly gay bishop in the worldwide Anglican church (though we all know there must have been quite a few over the last 2,000 years who kept it quiet!)

Greenbelt got some flak for giving him an opportunity to speak, but I think they were right and I managed to attend two of his three sessions. Two concerns surface regularly: one that it endorsed him in some way, and second that it might lead listeners astray. I have to say I think this is nonsense. Greenbelt isn't a conference of a group of people with a tightly drawn up agenda or basis of faith; it's a chance for celebration, sharing, creativity and grappling with questions. Allowing someone to speak at GB isn't the same as saying that everything they say is supported by the organisers.

Secondly, I'm becoming increasingly concerned that there is so much fear in Christian circles about speakers. It assumes that everyone's beliefs are so insecure that they can't cope with a variant opinion. Yet, when people leave church or their 'secure' Christian meeting, they are bombarded with other world views all the time. Wouldn't it be better preparation to help them to deal with debate and diversity in a 'safe space' than simply to cast them loose after another dose of standardised input?

Rant over. Back to Bp Gene. What was striking in his first session was how little it was about his homosexuality. He gave a very Biblical talk (he grew up in a very evangelical church) on how to keep your faith and sanity in times of turmoil and difficulty. If the cause of his hardships had been anything other than his sexuality, he could have given the talk at any evangelical gathering in perfect safety! what was impressive was his lack of bitterness, his confidence in the resurrection in the face of regular death threats (if you get a threat in the US that someone is going to shoot you, they almost certainly own a gun) He said something like 'death is not the worst thing that can happen; failing to live your life is'.

He also believed that his coming out as a gay person was ultimately an issue of integrity. As he put it, it was important that the outside matched the inside. That, for him, was living more like God would have us live. He came across as a very gracious person, who has a very real faith in a very real God and for whom this has not been a trivial whim, but a life-long struggle, wrestling with both faith and sexuality. Compared with the heated, angry and sometimes downright abusive behaviour he has experienced from other Christians, it does leave you wondering who can really claim to be closest to Christ.

If you want to hear the real thing (and not the spin), the talks are available for download, along with all other speakers and Greenbelt sessions here.

Will blog again soon about the great music.

Sex and Sexuality

...was the title of last night's InSpire, which is our Sunday evening contemporary worship / teaching / learning together / eating nice cake and biscuits. We're doing one or two "hot potato" subjects this term (featuring hot potatoes for eating) and Steve did a great job last night helping us to engage with a highly personal subject.

One light-hearted moment was a reading illustrating how it's very easy to use / misuse the Bible in such discussions. It's a response to Dr Laura Schlessinger when she was outspoken about homosexuality in 2002. Thanks to Andrew for the URL. Read it here.

Pity it had to be a humanist website to publish this!

Bible & Sex

John Bell was on characteristic good form this morning on BBC Radio 4, getting us to think about what the Bible really says about human sexuality.

You can read the text here

Last week he was equally stimulating about Jesus' attitude to women here

Looking forward to him being around at our Diocesan conference in September. I suspect many people have no idea what they are in for! Excellent.

Meanwhile, here's a cartoon that connects nicely with today's thought:

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Lambeth, Gafcon and all that jazz

Look forward to plenty of headlines about bishops and homosexuality for the next few weeks. We've got Gafcon, the C of E's General Synod and the Lambeth Conference ahead of us. Having worked for a few years in a Higher Education post, it all sounds rather odd and grating to hear Church people being so critical of gay Christians. It has certainly made me understand more of what must sound like to the world at large.

That's not to say that Christian theology should change, just because it sounds weird to non-Christians, but this issue makes the Church sound judgemental and even cruel. What has always puzzled me is why homosexuality has become the dividing issue. There is a huge diversity of opinion in the Anglican communion on all sorts of fundamental theological questions.

For example, you could find Anglican Bishops with views about the theology of communion that match both sides of the conflict in the time of the Reformation. Back then in the 1540s people were burning each other for heresy and blasphemy; now they are brother bishops in the same church. So why is sexuality more divisive?

I can't help thinking that it is precisely because it's about sex. Somehow the debate touches a human nerve in many people, which sends it up their theological priority scale. My guess is that all of our theological views are rather more determined by our emotions, personal experiences and prejudices than any of us are happy to admit.

Sexual Ethics

The debate about sexual ethics is raging again in the Anglican communion, especially about who is more Biblical than the other. Here's a very interesting article by Walter Wink that shows things ain't as simple as they seem when you want to have a 'Biblical' sexual ethic

http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-walter-wink

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Sadly the youtube link for the Aussie Jensen video no longer works. However, you can go to http://www.cnnnn.com/ and under some links referring to their newsbar, click DVD under highlights. When RealPlayer launches, click happy homosexuals.

More on covenants

I have now seen a bit more about the New Wine participation in the Covenant issue. The use of that term itself is interesting, as it clearly is intended to imply Divine authority.

John Coles (who runs the New Wine conferences and network) made a statement in response to some disquiet being expressed by NW associated church leaders. The interesting feature in his text is the regular use of the word orthodox. It left me wondering who gave him (or the leaders of Reform, Church Society or any other group) the authority to determine orthodoxy. Furthermore, since when has one's opinion on a specific issue (in this case homosexuality) been a test of orthodoxy?

Evangelicalism and 'orthodoxy' has thus far accommodated people with differing views on: creation, women, war & peace to name but three. It's also interesting to note that at least some of John Coles's allies on the signature list probably think that the 1 Corinthians 12 gifts of the spirit expired in the apostolic age. The logical conclusion is, therefore, that a good chunk of the New Wine summer festivals is emotional hysteria masquerading as the work of God!

The flip side of this is that last summer's New Wine north included a talk which effectively stated that Jesus was more equipped for his ministry after his baptism, which was essentially being used as a paradigm for 'baptism in the spirit'. Of course orthodox theology states that at conception Jesus was fully human and fully divine (the feast of the Annunciation was originally known as the feast of the Incarnation). His divinity was in no way enhanced at baptism - that is a heresy known as adoptionism. No-one in the leadership appeared to be at all perturbed at this, despite New Wine's stated desire to be orthodox. I noticed, and had a lively conversation with my fellow campers (who were largely mystified as to why it was important to me!)

What it all reveals is that the sexuality issue can't be treated by many people as an issue of Christianity meeting a new culture, but has become an article of faith. I can't help thinking that something has gone very wrong when an ethical question overtakes fundamental doctrines about God on the orthodoxy list.

Covenant or conspiracy?

My good friend, Steve Tilley commented on Reform and their schismatic threats recently here. This is in the context of the covenant signed by a group of evangelical leaders of various flavours, which you can read here. Thankfully Bishop Tom Wright has responded, and his text can be found here (hope you're still with me on this one.) Quite apart from the fact that Tom Wright is uncharacteristically forthright in his critique of his former friends and allies, he systematically demolishes many of their arguments. It's well worth a read.

For my part, I find it fascinating that conservative evangelicals are using terms like 'in communion' and worrying about episcopacy. For a group whose eucharistic theology is often 'chew bread and think hard', and for whom bishops were a necessary evil in order to get paid a stipend to preach instead of raising the money yourself, it's a remarkable ecclesiological revelation. We live in interesting times.

Furthermore, the signatories claim to represent lots of churches. I am certain that John Coles didn't consult the congregation or the staff on site (vicar was on sabbatical) at the church I attend, which is well-connected with New Wine. Many in our church would be deeply concerned about alliances with Reform and the Church Society with whom they have differences over gifts of the Spirit, the role of women to name but two. Any figures about the number of churches represented by this dozen or so signatures have, therefore, to be taken with a pinch of salt.