tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post113960141912628938..comments2024-03-16T08:15:56.182+00:00Comments on Purple Words on a Grey Background: falling in love again...?Mike Peatmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1141154843112449262006-02-28T19:27:00.000+00:002006-02-28T19:27:00.000+00:00Hi ChrisGood to have you on board.The following is...Hi Chris<BR/><BR/>Good to have you on board.<BR/><BR/>The following is rule of thumb, and the definitions overlap.<BR/><BR/>philea - love between friends<BR/><BR/>eros - sexual love<BR/><BR/>storge - familial love e.g. parent-child<BR/><BR/>agape - almost unique to the New Testament. Sacrificial love. The divine love shown to us, expected in fellowship and hoped for by God from us (Jesus asks for agape in John 21, but Peter is only prepared to offer philea<BR/><BR/>There is a wikipedia entry on Gk love words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love with all the usual wiki health warnings!<BR/><BR/>Also CS Lewis, The Four Loves addresses this too.<BR/><BR/>Basically I think "in love" in English = eros in Greek, which is the one word that is inappropriate for our response to God. Our love for God should be agape / philea / and even storge. <BR/><BR/>Hence I would go for worship songs that say we love God, but not that we are in love with God.Mike Peatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1141131800230924162006-02-28T13:03:00.000+00:002006-02-28T13:03:00.000+00:00Not sure if anyone will pick up on this comment no...Not sure if anyone will pick up on this comment now. Ho hum...<BR/><BR/>I also struggle with many of the usages of "love" in some recent worship songs. I recognise there are different words for love used in the Bible. Can you explain each of the ones mentioned above?<BR/><BR/>I often wonder what meaning the song writer is intending when he / she / they wrote the songs. Do they have dodgy theology? Are they meaning one particular type of love and we assume they mean another? It's a difficult one. I tend to steer clear of choosing songs to use that I'm not sure about the exact meaning of! I also try to find out more about the song, but often this proves difficult.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14750718180943292470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1139774209608136952006-02-12T19:56:00.000+00:002006-02-12T19:56:00.000+00:00that should readHere's my next verseJesus we get o...that should read<BR/><BR/>Here's my next verse<BR/><BR/>Jesus we get on well<BR/>You seem to understand<BR/>That when I say I love you<BR/>I don't want to hold your handMike Peatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1139774058201017342006-02-12T19:54:00.000+00:002006-02-12T19:54:00.000+00:00Here's my next verseJesus we get on wellYou seem t...Here's my next verse<BR/><BR/>Jesus we get on well<BR/>You seem to understand<BR/>That when I say I love<BR/>I don't want to hold your handMike Peatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1139773923714213892006-02-12T19:52:00.000+00:002006-02-12T19:52:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Mike Peatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1139773286415236502006-02-12T19:41:00.000+00:002006-02-12T19:41:00.000+00:00Point taken. The problem for me is that I am happy...Point taken. The problem for me is that I am happy to say I love God, love my children, love my dog, love my friends, but I'm only in <B>love</B> with my wife.Mike Peatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11376897.post-1139654257422327202006-02-11T10:37:00.000+00:002006-02-11T10:37:00.000+00:00I think the English language might be the problem:...I think the English language might be the problem:<BR/><BR/>Jesus: Do you love me?<BR/>Peter: Yes Lord you know I love you.<BR/>(Repeat three times)<BR/><BR/>We lose the subtlety of agape becoming phileo the third time.<BR/><BR/>Christian love songs mix up their agape, phileo, eros and the fourth one I can never remember (storge?)<BR/><BR/>Let's write a song.<BR/><BR/>First verse:<BR/><BR/>Jesu you're my best mate<BR/>You're the one I think is cool<BR/>I'd tell you that I love you<BR/>(I don't do that as a rule)Steve Tilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17400505989949096631noreply@blogger.com